Wildlife Conservation Society

Well, it's about whether you can achieve a win-win solution, whether you can achieve economic growth which brings wealth in order to cut poverty without damaging biodiversity. And the argument is that if you want to protect biodiversity you have to focus on that as a goal. But if you do that, you have to run the risk of hurting the poor and you also run the risk of inconveniencing or reducing economic growth. We use the developed and industrialized countries to see this argument this axis argued about. With... let us say a government wishing to start drilling for oil in place X which is full of wildlife and the Wildlife Conservation Society is urging them not to... on the ground that it is a wilderness refuge. We use to that debate what I'm saying is it in the developing world there's a third axis and it's quite a complex one.